Project Perfect Mod

[Durrandi]

 Enableing the Dropship w/o the "Carryall=yes"

[Clazzy]

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Can it carry units successfully, though?

[Durrandi]

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yes, it can. It won't carry vehicles though!

[CCHyper]

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so it would be good for troop transport then if you change the image, that is if the orignal orca transport dont work? but i am not sure

[Nuclear General]

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that might work if Im correct, but I dont know much about TS. I prefer RA2 and YR over TS

[Banshee]

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I've tested this and let's say it worked and it didn't work...

I've simply added FreeUnit=DSHP to the barracks.


It didn't worked exactly as I expected. When the game started, two dropships started with my MCV. These dropships carried passengers perfectly and had no problem when loaded. When I built the barracks, no new dropship appeared O.o.

So, this is a nice solution, but it needs some development . Or maybe I did something wrong... should I change the techlevel from the dropships ... maybe techlevel=-1 can cause this problem O.o... although when you play with TechLevel=1, the refinery free a Harvester, but the Harvester is tech 1. I'll do a new test with Dropship at Tech 1.

[01001011]

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Two problems:
(1)  can it be shot down while flying?
(2)  are you using aircraft locomotor and MovementZone=fly?

[Havoc]

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Banshee wrote:

It didn't worked exactly as I expected. When the game started, two dropships started with my MCV. These dropships carried passengers perfectly and had no problem when loaded. When I built the barracks, no new dropship appeared

"AllowedToStartMultiplayer=yes"??? Isnt this a problem?

[Durrandi]

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Banshee wrote:

I've tested this and let's say it worked and it didn't work... I've simply added FreeUnit=DSHP to the barracks. It didn't worked exactly as I expected. When the game started, two dropships started with my MCV. These dropships carried passengers perfectly and had no problem when loaded. When I built the barracks, no new dropship appeared O.o. So, this is a nice solution, but it needs some development . Or maybe I did something wrong... should I change the techlevel from the dropships ... maybe techlevel=-1 can cause this problem O.o... although when you play with TechLevel=1, the refinery free a Harvester, but the Harvester is tech 1. I'll do a new test with Dropship at Tech 1.

There is something hardcoded into the dropship that is screwing it up

You have to make a copy of the dropship and usae that copy to make it work.

Here is what I used, almost a direct copy of the dropship and it works. I change something caused I used a different image.

Code:

Strength=225 Category=AirLift Armor=light TechLevel=5 Sight=2 RadarInvisible=yes Landable=yes MoveToShroud=no Dock=NAHPAD,GAHPAD, PipScale=Passengers Speed=18 PitchSpeed=.16 Owner=GDI Cost=1000 Points=20 ROT=5 Passengers=5 Crewed=yes GuardRange=30 Explosion=TWLT070,S_BANG48,S_BRNL58,S_CLSN58,S_TUMU60 MaxDebris=3 VoiceSelect=30-I000,30-I002,30-I004,30-I006 VoiceMove=30-I014,30-I016,30-I018,30-I022 VoiceAttack=30-I022,30-I030,30-I034,30-I036 Locomotor={4A582746-9839-11d1-B709-00A024DDAFD1} MovementZone=Fly ThreatPosed=15        ; This value MUST be 0 for all building addons DamageParticleSystems=SparkSys,SmallGreySSys Landable=yes IsDropship=yes AllowedToStartInMultiplayer=no

[Banshee]

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@01001011:
1) yes. It's an aircraft type.
2) yes.


@Havoc: I used the code later to fix this little annoyance. But yea, after using that, I coudn't have a functional dropship anymore . But I need to have a way that we don't need it to be a starting unit to work.

Durrandi wrote:

Banshee wrote: I've tested this and let's say it worked and it didn't work... I've simply added FreeUnit=DSHP to the barracks. It didn't worked exactly as I expected. When the game started, two dropships started with my MCV. These dropships carried passengers perfectly and had no problem when loaded. When I built the barracks, no new dropship appeared O.o. So, this is a nice solution, but it needs some development . Or maybe I did something wrong... should I change the techlevel from the dropships ... maybe techlevel=-1 can cause this problem O.o... although when you play with TechLevel=1, the refinery free a Harvester, but the Harvester is tech 1. I'll do a new test with Dropship at Tech 1. There is something hardcoded into the dropship that is screwing it up You have to make a copy of the dropship and usae that copy to make it work. Here is what I used, almost a direct copy of the dropship and it works. I change something caused I used a different image. Code: Strength=225 Category=AirLift Armor=light TechLevel=5 Sight=2 RadarInvisible=yes Landable=yes MoveToShroud=no Dock=NAHPAD,GAHPAD, PipScale=Passengers Speed=18 PitchSpeed=.16 Owner=GDI Cost=1000 Points=20 ROT=5 Passengers=5 Crewed=yes GuardRange=30 Explosion=TWLT070,S_BANG48,S_BRNL58,S_CLSN58,S_TUMU60 MaxDebris=3 VoiceSelect=30-I000,30-I002,30-I004,30-I006 VoiceMove=30-I014,30-I016,30-I018,30-I022 VoiceAttack=30-I022,30-I030,30-I034,30-I036 Locomotor={4A582746-9839-11d1-B709-00A024DDAFD1} MovementZone=Fly ThreatPosed=15        ; This value MUST be 0 for all building addons DamageParticleSystems=SparkSys,SmallGreySSys Landable=yes IsDropship=yes AllowedToStartInMultiplayer=no

I'll try it as soon as I can, but I doubt a unit can be hardcoded to not work as a FreeUnit=.

[Clarkson]

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i am SO adding this to my next TS mod.

[Clarkson]

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Double Post. go to hell. but i must ask,CAN these dock?(like Dock=GADROP)

[Clazzy]

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I don't know, it does have the code to allow it:
Dock=NAHPAD,GAHPAD,
However, there's a slight mistake with it, there's that extra comma at the end (although it probably doesn't affect it).

[Durrandi]

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@Tib Harvester; yes it can

@clazzy; that extra comma was my fault, I had added a another docking structer custom to my mod so I took it off when I posted it here to avoid confusion

[Sorrow]

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I think that any unit that is a freeunit automaticaly becomes a vehicletype...

[Clarkson]

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I did this once,actually. i had teh ORCATRAN as the freeunit,though,i had shadow problems,and it seemed to hover right above the ground,do you get this problem,too?

[Durrandi]

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It's actually a graphical error, It works fin but thee shadow stays right under so it looks like it' on the ground instead of flying. If you look at the 1st and 2nd screenie, the first was right before it landed and the second was on the ground, so it looks like it's on the ground but thats just a shadow error. kind a like the paradroping vehicles trick.

[Morpher]

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Well if you want to build them,just do the pretend building with 1x1 foundation that gives a free dropship.And have the prerequisite=GADROP

[Durrandi]

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I think I figured out why some buildings will make the unit start out and not give a free unit. The building used had BaseNormal=no, any building that had it "=yes" (or not at all since yes is default) cause that "phenomenon"

[Clarkson]

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Damnit. can you get around the shadow bug,at all?

[Durrandi]

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Not to my knowledge. Could you possibly take away the shadow altogether?

[Havoc]

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I really have to try out this thing. *Prepares the inis, shps and Fraps (for recording)*

[Clarkson]

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Dont make a huge GIF,or i will kill you,Havoc.

[Banshee]

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Sorrow wrote:

I think that any unit that is a freeunit automaticaly becomes a vehicletype...

Unfornatelly, you are right.

I managed to reproduce his trick and I've loaded my orca transport with 3 soldiers. Then, I took it in a Nod base after scouting it. The Nod base has some cyborg reapers and rocket soldiers, so it was a perfect testing place. It was invincible on air .

[Havoc]

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So, this thread is usesless? I'd say not really. Banshee you shouldnt post on the site stuff that are in research, cuz sometimes, mistakes occur.

[Clarkson]

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Try the "Invunurable=yes" tag on it,then see,then try "invunurable=no"...im curious.

[Banshee]

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This tag doesn't exist...

[Havoc]

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I think he meant Invicible=no

[Worm4981]

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damm it... one reason more that we must get WW to make TS open source...

[Jah]

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Havoc wrote:

I think he meant Invicible=no

Immune=

[Banshee]

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But when it's landed, it's not immune to enemy fire.

[Havoc]

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Hmm, still weird. Hardcoded stuff....

[Banshee]

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Only CanMakeUpStuff=yes can make it work

[Worm4981]

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or westwood accepts our petition and makes TS open sourced  

[bassie12]

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Somehow i can make dropships at a factory.
But these fly like this fix would do.
only i need to sell my factory to release it.

[Banshee]

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If you use jumpjet locomotor, you won't need to sell your factory. But either way, the vehicle is invencible when flying.

[red_rebel]

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Worm4981 wrote:

damm it... one reason more that we must get WW to make TS open source...

yeah, that would be REALLY nice.

[ORCACommander]

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then sign the petition I'm #570 if your curios
I only know how to get there from tumsun

[Nejalic]

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Well it also seems that the semi retarted pilot while trying to hover hump objects in your base or wherever likes to land on the hover MLRS if you dont edit it correctly

[Aro]

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Please look at the dates on the last post, mate... This topic is more than 16 month's old.