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Aro
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:16 pm    Post subject:  We Will Bury Them
Subject description: My Take on a Classic Soviet Logo
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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

the scratches going over different parts of the logo remove the 3D effect as you can see how the 2D scratch isn't distorted/bend at the borders.
I would make several scratches only show on certain parts, e.g. those above the higher hammer and sickle shouldn't continue seamless on the lower red surface below.

Other than that a nice high detail logo.

a few more lighting effects to give the red, grey, golden star a bit more depth would be nice and show that the red, grey, golden areas aren't the same material just with a different paint. The emboss on the golden border is already a good start on this, but the scratches on it continuing seamless on the lower grey border take away the 3d effect again.

gold: make it a shiny smooth surface like gold and scratches on it only faint and not very deep. no scorch marks or dark burn effects there
grey: like concrete with a matte texture, the scratches rather deep and with 3D-lighting effects on the border of the scratch to give it depth

red: painted metal, slightly glossy, scratches not deep with shiny reflections at the scratch borders, dark scorch marks with a small smear/blur effect

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Volgin
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Very nicely done. I like the design. It actually looks... well, Soviet. Not graphic designer l33t. A few suggestions, though.

Would you consider replacing the rays in the inside with a different design? I can't help but think of, well, Japan with those kind of rays. RA3 is probably to blame for that, though. Maybe something like this, the Kremlin's red star design:



Also, could you do a version with a white trim instead of gold? Soviet armed forces tended to have white on the trim of the star.

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Aro
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Is this better? Completely redid the texturing but the basic shape is the same. I kept the rays, but made them a little bit more subtle.


[Click to view in actual size]

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Graion Dilach
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

GOD.

I so would see this in a mod.

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DonutArnold
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Pro quality, I like it. Are you going to make a desktop background version of it?

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Aro
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks. Smile I can do, sure. What resolution would you like?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

1920x1080 would be nice Very Happy

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Aro
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This is indeed a very well done logo, and excellent T-shirt and wallpaper material.

What came to mind can be blamed on watching too many war documentaries lately, but don't you think it's weird how we're all okay with this symbol? I find it absurd how the swastika and any other Nazi-related symbol is forever condemned and no one would ever even consider displaying them on their desktops, yet the Hammer & Sickle is often glorified. After all, the Soviet regime committed crimes just as unforgivable as those of the Third Reich. I'm not being hypocritical, just thoughtful.

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Aro
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, I was a bit concerned about posting it on my Facebook due-to my large number of political friends, but I simply emphasize that it's a Red Alert thing and everybody is okay with it, which yeah I agree, it's pretty strange.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Absolutely amazing! Thanks! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

looks good

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Looks a tad blurry, but reasonably good all the same.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Crimsonum wrote:
This is indeed a very well done logo, and excellent T-shirt and wallpaper material.

What came to mind can be blamed on watching too many war documentaries lately, but don't you think it's weird how we're all okay with this symbol? I find it absurd how the swastika and any other Nazi-related symbol is forever condemned and no one would ever even consider displaying them on their desktops, yet the Hammer & Sickle is often glorified. After all, the Soviet regime committed crimes just as unforgivable as those of the Third Reich. I'm not being hypocritical, just thoughtful.
Hungary, Poland, Lithuania, Moldova and some other ex soviet countries ban the red star and the hammer and sickle

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OmegaBolt
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The new version looks a lot better but I definitely think the texture on the hammer & sickle is too strong. Like LKO said earlier, it just makes it look flat. It's probably very hard or impossible to do in Photoshop but to me the hammer & sickle should be obviously 3D with proper perspective.

Crimsonum wrote:
What came to mind can be blamed on watching too many war documentaries lately, but don't you think it's weird how we're all okay with this symbol? I find it absurd how the swastika and any other Nazi-related symbol is forever condemned and no one would ever even consider displaying them on their desktops, yet the Hammer & Sickle is often glorified. After all, the Soviet regime committed crimes just as unforgivable as those of the Third Reich. I'm not being hypocritical, just thoughtful.

Probably because the Soviets didn't lose the war so their war crimes were not as exposed to the people that used the symbol. Just like us and our flags. Though personally I'd only accept it in C&C or other satirical or ironic forms of entertainment, if someone uses it seriously in real life that'd be a very different thing. All flags should be abandoned that this point, none of them are clean. #Tongue

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Aro, that is excellent! I only should admit that hammer is smoothy or so (maybe this was your idea, so it's fine).

Dodgevipergts, I didn't hear about banning hammer and sickle in Lithuania, it's Latvia maybe? And Poland and Hungary are not ex-soviet IMO (they've not been parts or the USSR) but ex-socialistic.

Crimsonum & Gangster, you really have to create another topic to talk about that. (I hope Crimsonum hates only Stalin but not every Soviet leader)

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Graion Dilach
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

dodgevipergts wrote:
But I don't come here to talk politics, I come here to talk modding.


+1. And back to modding. Aro, you did a good logo here, and honestly I would at first almost asked it away for my Soviets, but it's too grim compared to what funky or as Bolt calls COLURZ stuff I have... Very Happy

EDIT: Ah, posts are moved.

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Zero18
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This wallpaper will make a great loading screen for my mod. Smile

Thanks Aro, and also if it is possible for you to make Allied Logo screen similar to this style. I really like your soviet logo style., it just match my preference.

Excellent work Aro.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Awesome work!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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