Project Perfect Mod

[Reaperrr]

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[Revolutionary]

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id be happy to beta test
i have the downloaded free version (the proper put on disks one) i can test at the weekends and when i dont have homework, tests or i am doing some thing for tiberian fall and ill tell you the truth and more than just "it was good"

Edit; im happy to patch, mod or destroy my copy for you and i have the internet set up for td

[Tore]

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I could make maps for you if you want.

Here is an image of my last released map (beta version)
http://www.cnc-comm.com/map.png
(The image is from the map editior BTW)

[Nyerguds]

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Tore... map is nice, but the tons of infantry you put on it plain suck

As for me, well, while I'm an expert in C&C1 mission triggers, I really suck at designing terrain maps

[Aro]

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Damn, I really love Tiberian Dawn's terrain.

[raminator]

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[Tore]

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Nyerguds wrote:

Tore... map is nice, but the tons of infantry you put on it plain suck As for me, well, while I'm an expert in C&C1 mission triggers, I really suck at designing terrain maps

The infantry is there for a reason

[Nyerguds]

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One barracks and some triggers do the job too

Hey Rami! Funky looking tank you got there, lol

[raminator]

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i have some more funky looking stuff i could have shown if cnc techcentre wasn´t down

[Reaperrr]

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Revolutionary wrote:

Edit; im happy to patch, mod or destroy my copy for you

The last one won't be necessary (I think)

Revolutionary wrote:

and i have the internet set up for td

That's clearly a plus, alright, you're in

Tore wrote:

I could make maps for you if you want. Here is an image of my last released map (beta version) http://www.cnc-comm.com/map.png (The image is from the map editior BTW)

Nice map, I spotted a few terrain errors on some cliffs, and it seems the tiberium fields are somewhat small, but such things can be fixed within minutes, and otherwise it looks decent.
Alright, you're in

@Aro: hehe yeah, TD's terrain is great. Actually, I consider the lack of desert maps one of RA1s biggest shortcomings.
I still hope that Nyerguds might be able to add support for 2 additional terrain sets to TD, JUNGLE and SNOW. For snow we could simply use the one from RA1, and for Jungle I would simply modify one of the existing terrains. More variation ftw

@Nyer: Well, I'm good at terrain but mediocre at triggers, maybe we can share some work, I make the map and you help me with the triggers

@rami: If that was meant to be the visual version of "if you need someone who can make new unit shps, ask me", it worked
I only hope it won't take Nyerguds too long to add support for additional units to the game...

[CCHyper]

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Urm, Can i haz artwork job plz?

[Reaperrr]

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Hyper wrote:

Urm, Can i haz artwork job plz?

nah

j/k, you haz teh job

[CCHyper]

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Check Beta forum then!

[raminator]

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yippiehiho

[Nyerguds]

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Reaperrr wrote:

@rami: If that was meant to be the visual version of "if you need someone who can make new unit shps, ask me", it worked I only hope it won't take Nyerguds too long to add support for additional units to the game...

it shouldn't... I need to move the list of unit pointers (basically one neat list that tells the game where the final data of each unit is stored in memory) to a place where I have space to add more to the end of the list, and then fix all references to it... but that's about it. After that, I can add whatever I want. Actually adding code to make the game create a new unit isn't hard.

Of course, if you want new projectiles, weapons, aircraft, etc, I'll need to repeat that process for each expanded type.

[Ixonoclast]

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[offtopic]ztype YEAH ALIEN LEGO![/offtopic]

If you guys need "blueprints" for like splashscreens and such, just yell.

[Nyerguds]

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"blueprints" for splashscreens? Umm... Hyper's a graphical designer.

(and this is my normal avatar ^_^)

[Ixonoclast]

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But I don't know if Hyper does pencil sketching... :/ That's what I ment.

[Nyerguds]

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um what? 'Blueprints' aren't sketches...

What do you mean with splash screens anyway?

[Ixonoclast]

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Loading screens and such.

But it has been ages since I played C&C, don't know if they have that.

[raminator]

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ehmmmmnot really

[Reaperrr]

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Nyerguds wrote:

it shouldn't... I need to move the list of unit pointers (basically one neat list that tells the game where the final data of each unit is stored in memory) to a place where I have space to add more to the end of the list, and then fix all references to it... but that's about it. After that, I can add whatever I want. Actually adding code to make the game create a new unit isn't hard. Of course, if you want new projectiles, weapons, aircraft, etc, I'll need to repeat that process for each expanded type.

I'm afraid I have to ask you for just that

I think I probably won't need new infantry, aircraft, building and warhead slots (although that might change ), but I'll definitely need more units, more weapons and more projectiles.
Does the amount of work for you depend on the length of the list? If yes, I guess it's better to not ask you for an expanded animation list... Although that would be really cool, too... *hinthint*

[Crimsonum]

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I would also like to do missions/maps. Triggers are my only weakness, but I can handle most of them. And I can always learn more.

[CCHyper]

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Reaperr, Nyer has school, so i would happily write to code for him, thus this gives him more time to test it and play around with it.

[Reaperrr]

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Hyper wrote:

Reaperr, Nyer has school, so i would happily write to code for him, thus this gives him more time to test it and play around with it.

Well, anything that helps getting the new stuff in faster would be great, so go ahead


@Crimsonum: Sure, I'm glad about any help in mapping I can get
And about the triggers, since we have Nyerguds as trigger guru (and I'm not that bad either) that shouldn't be a problem.

[Nyerguds]

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With my current knowledge, I might even be able to add new triggers

[Team Black]

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I'll volunteer to beta test, though I admit that I can't be extremely reliable. I'll definitely do what I can for you though.

[apoptygma]

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I could probably do some beta testing. I play a lot of mods... not sure what other qualifications you're looking for

[Apex]

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I could beta test. I have alot of extra time at home.

[Nyerguds]

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Reaperrr wrote:

Does the amount of work for you depend on the length of the list? If yes, I guess it's better to not ask you for an expanded animation list...

No, not at all, the current lists can just be copied completely, without needing any modifications. The only real problem is finding all spots that determine how much it reads from that list, in other words, what determines the size. For units there were about 6 different places that had that same value there. I modified the code so all of these places now read the list length value from one single spot somewhere in the exe, so it can be adapted at one place instead of needing to modify six spots.

[Reaperrr]

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Nyerguds wrote:

With my current knowledge, I might even be able to add new triggers

That would be awesome

Do you think you could make triggers that make the AI launch a superweapon onto a specified location, instead of the annoying "I just attack what is closest to the north" approach?

Also, a trigger for playing a certain sound and/or music track when triggered would be cool as well.

Oh, and a "reveal area" trigger that is independent from DZ at Z and more importantly can be used more than once to reveal location A when x happens, location B when y happens and so on.

Good luck


@ TB, apoptygma and |Read|: You're all in

[Nyerguds]

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at the moment, I might be able to pull off stuff like breaking and forming alliances. Revealing specified spots might be kinda hard, since the only values linked to a trigger are related to the cause, and not to the effect. No idea about SW targets; that's AI related, and I kinda prefer not to touch that stuff at all.

This is all very theoretical though. Still needs tons of research which I really have no time for right now. At the moment I prefer getting the new animations and stuff implemented.

[Reaperrr]

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Nyerguds wrote:

at the moment, I might be able to pull off stuff like breaking and forming alliances.

That one would be useful as well

About the other stuff, don't worry, I was just giving my wishlist , but it isn't required to make TDX good. It would just be the icing on the cake.

[Ixonoclast]

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Nyerguds wrote:

at the moment, I might be able to pull off stuff like breaking and forming alliances.

I suddenly imagine stuff like fighting warlords in Africa.

[Nyerguds]

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As I said though, C&C doesn't support any parameters given to the trigger actions, except for a teamtype, which explains the existenceof triggers like dstry trigger 'XXXX' and DZ at 'Z'.
So to really implement this, I'd have to make a trigger for each and every possible combination of sides, which is pretty impossible seeing as C&C has 10 sides, internally..

On the other hand, a trigger to give money to a player should be pretty easy to implement. We figured that out when finding the crate logic

[D1Hazel]

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I'll willing to help testing and mapping. Course, looking at it, the last post is from 2 years ago. This is why I shouldn't post from my DS...

[NukeDN]

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Is this mod still alive?
I was so happy when i read about it. but hmhm .. it seems pretty dead atm. too bad

I would like to help as well, since im playing this game for about 15 years from time to time now.. and i really like it still.

[Darkstorm]

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Doubt it, though you really should adopt a "no post if the last post was more than a week or so ago" rule. Reaperrr is still around working on Return of the Dawn though.

[Reaperrr]

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TDX is waiting for Nyerguds to implement some features into the exe that are necessary to make this project how I envision it. Since Nyerguds was concentrating on the non-TDX-specific parts of patch 1.06c until recently, there has been quite of a slowdown. However, Nyer is slowly getting there, and we already have some great stuff internally that wasn't shown off publicly. After ROTD 2.8 is out, I'll concentrate on TDX again.

[NukeDN]

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Im really glad to hear that.
Following these forums and the old school cnc websites for a very long time im sure that you guys can create one hell of an awesome mod.

Do you got some basic ideas for your campaign already?
I mean the campaign will always stay some kind of heart for cnc 1, for this reason guys will expect a lot from it in my opinion..

Is it possible to have some special units?
Im thinking about the bio-war campaign which was actually the best one i ever played and i really think that i played every campaign which is it worth to get played

maybe im wrong but i didnt find that many more perhaps one of you got some kind of campaign
would really be happy to play another one

[Crimsonum]

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Do you got some basic ideas for your campaign already?

Yes. There will be a campaign that runs parallel to the C&C1 campaign. However, instead of ending with the Temple's destruction, the TDX campaign will span beyond this event.

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Is it possible to have some special units?

I think it was possible to add a few new units. At least there was something about removed due to spoiler

Reaperrr: Sorry for editing your post Crim, but that's a spoiler

[Reaperrr]

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Most of the mission ideas are already there, yes. Actually, several missions are half-way done, they only need some additional triggers and fine-tuning.

There will be at least two campaigns, one for each side, and each campaign will have 10 missions.
The very idea of TDX is to deliver single-player missions that match or exceed the quality of the best official and fan-made missions. Diversity is a key factor as well. I doubt anyone wants to play 20 run-of-the-mill base-building missions in a row There are enough of them in th original campaigns already.

Some additional single missions/mini-campaigns may find their way into TDX as well.

Special units? We'll see

EDIT: Crim was faster

[OmegaBolt]

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Well, I could help with mission making.

[Crimsonum]

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Ah, sorry for revealing that. Good thing you fixed it quick enough

[NukeDN]

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10 missions? sounds great
And i hope we cant expect the highest tech-lvl from the
first map on. Some real campaign playing we need here

Anyways, this sounds EXTREMELY well.

Special units o.ô Great!
But they gotta fit in the style of C&C1 thats very important. i hope you dont have ideas of cyborgs, at least not some kind of über cyborgs. just for example.

Units like the ones in the bio-war campaign fitted perfect. Also the heavy tank of red alert are a great one.