Project Perfect Mod

[YuriX]

 Recreating YR in 3D

[Deformat]

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Woot,sexy

[Shakar]

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-Points to Secret's post- What he said O_O

This is something I'd defiantly play ^_^

[CCHyper]

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Very nice, i have been watching your posts, hey have been interesting.

Looking forward to seeing what this turns into

[NewGuy]

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Looks cool. Does this mean no voxel will work?

[Shakar]

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I'm thinking at least general's grade in graphics will be the minimum for this engine, so probably no VXLs... v.v But who knows, I'll be surprised if infantry SHPs are in here =P

[Gangster]

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Need a help ?

[IcySon55]

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If he locks the camera to the standard YR angle and distance from the terrain, he can allow the game to be rotate to the 4 cardinal directions. Buildings that are not square would simply be mirrored. This would also work for infantry and voxels. Though the voxels would require a very fast draw method or too many would bring the game to snail's pace in no time at all.

If you've ever played Caesar 3, you'll understand the rotation I'm talking about.

[ViPr]

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this is great. i've been waiting ages for someone to do this. now i'd like it to have first person view with each vehicle controlled by another player. kthnxbai.

[Dutchygamer]

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All I can say is that you are doing a great job!

[YuriX]

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I have ever tried to recover 3D models from voxels but without luck the result was disapointing so far. Check this post.

the engine doesn't support SHP units unless I implement Icy's idea.
I think i should make this in the future and put the camera's parameters into rulesmd.ini. Just giving options to do that. When it is in YR's view, 3d models and SHPs will co-exist(3d lighting won't affect SHPs). I will try but won't put this in the first place because there are still a lot of works to do ATM.
And it's 3d by default.

ViPr wrote:

now i'd like it to have first person view with each vehicle controlled by another player.

Yeah, i'd like to fly jets then destory some land targets.

[Ixonoclast]

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Did you put 3d graphics in YR? Or rebuild YR around a 3d engine?

[CCHyper]

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...Hes made a new engine...

[Dny]

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good news i will be looking for it
Wish you the best of luck

[EVA-251]

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Looks simply incredible.

Makes me flashback to the 3d Doom Engines I would play.

Great work, good luck with getting the framework down.

[Blade]

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Out of interest, how will you be licensing the engine?

[AprilWar]

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Very interesting. Good luck with this project.
How bout RA2: High Quality (RA2HQ) or RA2:3D

[DaFool]

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ra2+1(d)

YuriX's Revenge

[Suiseiseki]

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How about the simple R3D? Added bonus of being able to stand for Red alert 3D and looking like 'Red'!

[Somebody Else]

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Suiseiseki wrote:

How about the simple R3D? Added bonus of being able to stand for Red alert 3D and looking like 'Red'!

My favourite so far. That's some mighty impressive work there

[Daz]

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This looks very promising.

Can you explain any more regarding how coding units/structures/etc will work in this?

And what are we looking at in the way of graphics for the above? (poly counts, how to export to your .mesh format, texture resolutions)

[Holy_Master]

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sound interesting but i need to know to programming to use this?

[ViPr]

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Holy_Master wrote:

sound interesting but i need to know to programming to use this?

probably no. he could probably make his program read the game's ini files or someone can make a converter to automatically convert them to his format.

[NewGuy]

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YuriX you could ask for some help. Ask VK his a good coder to. He wanted to create his own YR engine in a long time.

[YuriX]

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I have made more cliffs.

Blade wrote:

Out of interest, how will you be licensing the engine?

Opensource at least. Maybe GPL but then you have to release your plug-ins' source.

Daz wrote:

And what are we looking at in the way of graphics for the above? (poly counts, how to export to your .mesh format, texture resolutions)

You can model them in your 3d program then export them to .obj/.x/etc.
Use this to get .mesh:

It an IDE for the engine and will be released. It contains editors/converters/etc.
So far the IDE is not user friendly enough because it is not intended to be public at the beginning of the development. It'll be imporved later.

Model'd better be low polygon models though the IDE can simplify them. Texture size can be whatever you want but too big texture will use lots of memory. Game will only run on higher-ended computers if so.

ViPr wrote:

he could probably make his program read the game's ini

Yea it reads the game's INIs. I will make coding units/structures/etc similiar to YR.




I think help on making content is OK.
Programing help is ok but this project have more than 70,000 lines of code so far. It will take sometime to understand the design. And also somgtime to understand each other's coding style.

[Gangster]

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<3

Where can i submit a content?

[Ickus]

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whoa, that render does look pretty sexy! with the atmospheric perspective..

although low poly? hrm. although one can "fix" that using the plugsystem. what texture channels does it support? bump? normal?

[YuriX]

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Gangster wrote:

Where can i submit a content?

Oh thank you very much.
how about sending them to canbitwell[at]gmail.com?

Ickus wrote:

whoa, that render does look pretty sexy! with the atmospheric perspective. what texture channels does it support? bump? normal?

that's just an in-game screenshot.
4 texture channels are available,
You can set what effect one material will use. The textures will have different usages depending on the effect. Usually texture 1 is the color map, others are bump/normal/etc.

A simple example: normal mapping is one of the effects. when using this texture 2 will be the normal map.

Remember that the engine is extentable you can add and use your own effects.


btw now it's time to work on the shadows.

[Dupl3xxx]

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This looks simply AWSOME! This is realy good! I will follow this further, in deed! Any further plans? Water, tunnels, bridges? view the battle from a units view? I'm learning textures now, and some basic 3d, so I will try to help

[Hello There]

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This topic is getting better. Somehow, the cliff's color is dark (charcoal?), which is annoying to look. The sky is better.

[Daz]

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YuriX wrote:

It an IDE for the engine and will be released. It contains editors/converters/etc. So far the IDE is not user friendly enough because it is not intended to be public at the beginning of the development. It'll be imporved later.

Excellent.
I foresee this being very popular.

[Ickus]

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he cliff's color is dark (charcoal?), which is annoying to look.

they're untextured?

[Daz]

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They look textured to me...

[Ickus]

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alright, they look like they have bump or something. but no color aside from that grey?..well let YuriX answer that one..

just the literal interpretations sometimes gets a bit irritating..when its clearly still WIP. oh well.

[Holy_Master]

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i think they have texture, but give it orange color to make it look more match. how ever overall look great have you plan to add some shadows?

[Daz]

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YuriX will you be releasing that voxel to model program?

While the models themselves aren't great for ingame they could be used as a good base to make an ingame model if you can get the models from your program into 3dsmax.
There's a program out there that does it already, but it ends up with poly counts that lag even on a quad core with an 8800GT so modelling around it is frustratingly slow.

Edit:
It takes all the pre-modelling work out of doing something like this.

[Soviet_Deso]

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This looks amazing but the problem now is getting a team to create all the art assets, if you gonna work alone on this it will take you years to finish it. Good luck with this project, i would love to see this finished

Nice model Daz but the rocket pack couldn't of been defined with a simple texture/bump map

[Daz]

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Yeah it could.
That model is about 900 triangles unoptimised, I can do a sweep of general optimisation and if the engine allows it a sweep of backface deletion.

[pd]

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NewGuy wrote:

Looks cool. Does this mean no voxel will work?

Best thing you can do is to not support voxels, actually.

[Dupl3xxx]

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As long as the Voxel to "3d" would work very well, the voxel format would only be used when modeling.

[Bako'Ikaporamee]

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This could be damn interesting to mod once it's finished. Open source games are usually the best.

[ViPr]

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i'm sorry to say but i predict this project will never be finished. how many other projects like this were cancelled?

[Suiseiseki]

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ViPr wrote:

i'm sorry to say but i predict this project will never be finished. how many other projects like this were cancelled?

This is already further on than the rest ever got I believe.

[Dny]

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ViPr wrote:

i'm sorry to say but i predict this project will never be finished. how many other projects like this were cancelled?

Hey dont be soo negative

anyways hoo knows? this could become a success

[DaFool]

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Have you thought about water yet? Will it be like in ra2, where it's just a terrain type, or will the be depth and stuff?

[YuriX]

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Shadow casted. Not just terrain any model can cast shadow if you like.
Looks a bit pixely though I used Percentage Closer Filtering. still needs improvment.

I think this pic tells something about the cliffs. Ingame cliff texture is recolored.

Daz wrote:

There's a program out there that does it already, but it ends up with poly counts that lag even on a quad core with an 8800GT so modelling around it is frustratingly slow.

Can your 3d modelling program simplifize them? I know 3dsmax can do it adding a Optimize modifier.

Daz wrote:

YuriX will you be releasing that voxel to model program?

I'll. Maybe texture generation is not included.

DaFool wrote:

Have you thought about water yet? Will it be like in ra2, where it's just a terrain type, or will the be depth and stuff?

Interactive but not clear water like RA3's. Maybe simpler than it for better peformance on older machines.

[Dupl3xxx]

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The new "foto" looks good! But don't use the original cliffs, use those new dark ones.

And could "god rays" be included as a grafical option? would fit the cliffs

clear six feet down, then dark sky or something? At least the coast should have a transistion from ground to deep water. Oh, and will moving/transforming terrain be included? Like the destroyable cliffs?
Also, you should try to duplicate the ice effect in TS

[raminator]

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@YuriX:
i guess different terrain will be created threw different texture sets...or will there be a hole set of "models" for each terrain set?

all that i can say now is that this looks pretty impressive =)

[AprilWar]

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Amazing

YOu should have your own development subforum =p

[Daz]

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YuriX wrote:

Can your 3d modelling program simplifize them? I know 3dsmax can do it adding a Optimize modifier.

Edit:
Attach list to attach all the individual cubes together makes things alot faster though you do lose the colours. Optimising does barely anything to the poly count (FALC is still 27000) but at least I can model without lag if the cubes are attached to each other.